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to us as they do so it was a routine engagement with the press as we normally do when things are made public. >> next. >> brennan stressed the plot was not a threat to u.s. public or air safety because washington had inside control. >> inside control of the plot. that's exactly right. >> okay. so based on that, one would know that we had something inside. is that a fair statement? >> it's -- from that statement, it is known that ied at the time was not a threat to the traveling public. we said there was no active plot at the time. >> would you agree that disclosure was -- resulted in the outing of an asset that shouldn't have been outed. >> absolutely not. >> how can you say that. >> because i -- what i'm saying is that we were explaining to the american public why the ied was not a threat at the time it was in the control of individuals. when we say positive control, inside control, we have at operation either environmentally or any number of ways. it did not reveal classified information and i told those individuals and -- to transcripts available of that conversation. i cannot talk
. >> having used the words of inside control, it isn't much of a leap to determine you had a handle on it. >> it's not much of a leap to know if we said this ied was in fact obtained and it was not a threat at the time, that there was inside control. it's almost a truism. >> having said that, it seems to me that the leak that the justice department is looking for is right here in front of us. you disagree with that. >>> i disagree vee vee helmetly. i talked to the department of justice and i'm a witness in that as many people are. there's witness, subject and target. i'm not a subject or target, i'm a witness. i want to make sure whoever leaked the information to the press that seriously did does erupt operational equities on the part of operational partners. that never should have happened. >> you agree this was a serious flaw in what should have happened. >> it's a serious flaw it got out to the press before the operation was concluded. absolutely. >> and you were. >> and my discussion with those individuals that night, it was already in the press. >> you would agree with me on the day
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